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		<title>By: Bookworm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 03:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d also like to know how many of the people screaming about Obama or Palin&#039;s lack of experience favor term limits for Senators, Congressmen or governors. If experience is a good thing, why would you want to limit it? Although I suppose an argument could be made that term limits might force career politicans who would otherwise stay indefinitely in a &quot;safe&quot; legislative, Congressional or executive seat to seek other offices and broaden their experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d also like to know how many of the people screaming about Obama or Palin&#8217;s lack of experience favor term limits for Senators, Congressmen or governors. If experience is a good thing, why would you want to limit it? Although I suppose an argument could be made that term limits might force career politicans who would otherwise stay indefinitely in a &#8220;safe&#8221; legislative, Congressional or executive seat to seek other offices and broaden their experience.</p>
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		<title>By: 11Bravo</title>
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		<dc:creator>11Bravo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 03:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The common good is Obama&quot;. 

I hope it isn&#039;t too late to take ICC North and turn it back into a mental institution. We&#039;re gonna need it after all these quacks have a mental breakdown following Obama&#039;s upset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The common good is Obama&#8221;. </p>
<p>I hope it isn&#8217;t too late to take ICC North and turn it back into a mental institution. We&#8217;re gonna need it after all these quacks have a mental breakdown following Obama&#8217;s upset.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookworm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bookworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 02:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The only people with the â€œexperienceâ€ necessary to run the place are the â€œbumsâ€ we want to throw out.&quot; 

I couldn&#039;t have said it better myself, BJ. 

This might be a good time to ask the question: what, exactly, makes a person &quot;qualified&quot; to be president beyond the constitutional requirements of age and citizenship? A master&#039;s or Ph.D. degree in economics or foreign policy? A military service record? A certain number of years in Congress, or in another president&#039;s cabinet, or serving as an ambassador or diplomat? A certain number of years as governor of a state above a certain population threshold? 

Many people tend to assume that serving in Congress or in a presidential cabinet places one close enough to the inner workings of federal government to have a pretty good idea of what the job of president involves. But is that really true? 

Some Republicans argue that Palin&#039;s executive experience as a mayor and governor are more comparable to the presidency (an executive office) than Obama&#039;s legislative experience. However, some Democrats argue that Obama&#039;s state legislative experience taught him more about deal-making and compromise than the rarefied experience of the typical U.S. Senator, and therefore make him just as or more &quot;qualified&quot; to be president as someone who&#039;s been in Congress longer -- a contention sometimes referred to as Obama&#039;s &quot;Springfield card.&quot; (I suppose in Palin&#039;s case it could be called the Wassilia or Juneau card)

The expectations people have of a president are vague and contradictory to some extent. We want the president to be an omnipotent, super-smart, infallible father (or mother) figure, but we also want them to be just like us ordinary stiffs. We want people with &quot;experience&quot; but we don&#039;t want &quot;Beltway insiders&quot; who are entrenched in a &quot;broken system.&quot; 

What experience, if any, prepares a person for the modern presidency? And have our expectations of the president become unrealistic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The only people with the â€œexperienceâ€ necessary to run the place are the â€œbumsâ€ we want to throw out.&#8221; </p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t have said it better myself, BJ. </p>
<p>This might be a good time to ask the question: what, exactly, makes a person &#8220;qualified&#8221; to be president beyond the constitutional requirements of age and citizenship? A master&#8217;s or Ph.D. degree in economics or foreign policy? A military service record? A certain number of years in Congress, or in another president&#8217;s cabinet, or serving as an ambassador or diplomat? A certain number of years as governor of a state above a certain population threshold? </p>
<p>Many people tend to assume that serving in Congress or in a presidential cabinet places one close enough to the inner workings of federal government to have a pretty good idea of what the job of president involves. But is that really true? </p>
<p>Some Republicans argue that Palin&#8217;s executive experience as a mayor and governor are more comparable to the presidency (an executive office) than Obama&#8217;s legislative experience. However, some Democrats argue that Obama&#8217;s state legislative experience taught him more about deal-making and compromise than the rarefied experience of the typical U.S. Senator, and therefore make him just as or more &#8220;qualified&#8221; to be president as someone who&#8217;s been in Congress longer &#8212; a contention sometimes referred to as Obama&#8217;s &#8220;Springfield card.&#8221; (I suppose in Palin&#8217;s case it could be called the Wassilia or Juneau card)</p>
<p>The expectations people have of a president are vague and contradictory to some extent. We want the president to be an omnipotent, super-smart, infallible father (or mother) figure, but we also want them to be just like us ordinary stiffs. We want people with &#8220;experience&#8221; but we don&#8217;t want &#8220;Beltway insiders&#8221; who are entrenched in a &#8220;broken system.&#8221; </p>
<p>What experience, if any, prepares a person for the modern presidency? And have our expectations of the president become unrealistic?</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 23:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not claiming anything.  Just doing what the conservatives/Repubs have been doing for years now....repeating garbage, which is what the rest of your comment here does as well.  I love that you guys can dish, dish, dish but you claim foul when the same is done back.  It&#039;s getting good.  You guys have lost and it&#039;s not even November.  Wait, what is that I hear?  Oh, a sinking ship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not claiming anything.  Just doing what the conservatives/Repubs have been doing for years now&#8230;.repeating garbage, which is what the rest of your comment here does as well.  I love that you guys can dish, dish, dish but you claim foul when the same is done back.  It&#8217;s getting good.  You guys have lost and it&#8217;s not even November.  Wait, what is that I hear?  Oh, a sinking ship.</p>
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		<title>By: TaxMeMore</title>
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		<dc:creator>TaxMeMore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m off the deep end while Linda claims Sarah Palin faked a pregnancy for her 16 year old daughter and was able to cover it up while the Governor of a state only slightly smaller than Delaware? Someone is off the deep end, but it aint me.

I&#039;m not a conservative either, Linda, but thanks for trying to play the smear game even more.

&quot;The common good was NOT invading Iraq.&quot;

Then why did Barack Obama pick Joe Biden for the VP slot when Joe Biden voted FOR the Iraq War and cheered Bush on while advocating we split Iraq into three countries that would take even longer for our troops to accomplish and result in more deaths than the current wrong path? Then why does Barack Obama continue to endorse candidates that supported the Iraq War and voted for it? By his own actions Barack Obama doesn&#039;t care about the common good or he wouldn&#039;t still be letting the people responsible for it advance their agendas in our government.

&quot;The common good was NOT subverting Americans civil rights.&quot;

Then why did Barack Obama pick Joe Biden for VP when Joe Biden agreed with Bush and voted FOR the Patriot Act. Twice. Why did Obama pick Biden who wrote the put Tommy Chong and his bong in a cage laws, increased funding for military automatic weapon drug raids that leave innocent 90 year old women dead, 3 month old children without fingers and their mother, and small town Mayor&#039;s dogs slaughtered, championed mandatory minimum sentences, and brags about creating more new federal criminal laws than anyone else? Why did Barack Obama AND Joe Biden vote to give immunity to telephone companies when they subverted our privacy rights and let the government spy on us without probable cause? Why did Barack Obama endorse Lisa Madigan who told the US Supreme Court that police should be able to use thermal imaging devices and watch us inside our homes without a warrant or probable cause and argued police dogs should be able to sniff us whenever they feel like without warrant or probable cause?

The common good has nothing to do with Barack Obama. If you believed in the common good and could get past blind loyalty, the truth is clear that Barack Obama doesn&#039;t care about Iraq or American civil rights or the common good as much as he says he does or he wouldn&#039;t have picked Joe Biden as his VP and wouldn&#039;t still be supporting other Democrats that bent over and let Bush do whatever he wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m off the deep end while Linda claims Sarah Palin faked a pregnancy for her 16 year old daughter and was able to cover it up while the Governor of a state only slightly smaller than Delaware? Someone is off the deep end, but it aint me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a conservative either, Linda, but thanks for trying to play the smear game even more.</p>
<p>&#8220;The common good was NOT invading Iraq.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then why did Barack Obama pick Joe Biden for the VP slot when Joe Biden voted FOR the Iraq War and cheered Bush on while advocating we split Iraq into three countries that would take even longer for our troops to accomplish and result in more deaths than the current wrong path? Then why does Barack Obama continue to endorse candidates that supported the Iraq War and voted for it? By his own actions Barack Obama doesn&#8217;t care about the common good or he wouldn&#8217;t still be letting the people responsible for it advance their agendas in our government.</p>
<p>&#8220;The common good was NOT subverting Americans civil rights.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then why did Barack Obama pick Joe Biden for VP when Joe Biden agreed with Bush and voted FOR the Patriot Act. Twice. Why did Obama pick Biden who wrote the put Tommy Chong and his bong in a cage laws, increased funding for military automatic weapon drug raids that leave innocent 90 year old women dead, 3 month old children without fingers and their mother, and small town Mayor&#8217;s dogs slaughtered, championed mandatory minimum sentences, and brags about creating more new federal criminal laws than anyone else? Why did Barack Obama AND Joe Biden vote to give immunity to telephone companies when they subverted our privacy rights and let the government spy on us without probable cause? Why did Barack Obama endorse Lisa Madigan who told the US Supreme Court that police should be able to use thermal imaging devices and watch us inside our homes without a warrant or probable cause and argued police dogs should be able to sniff us whenever they feel like without warrant or probable cause?</p>
<p>The common good has nothing to do with Barack Obama. If you believed in the common good and could get past blind loyalty, the truth is clear that Barack Obama doesn&#8217;t care about Iraq or American civil rights or the common good as much as he says he does or he wouldn&#8217;t have picked Joe Biden as his VP and wouldn&#8217;t still be supporting other Democrats that bent over and let Bush do whatever he wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Iâ€™ll go back and forth with you all day on this and point out your double standard and blind loyalty to a party and people that have shown nothing but corruption, obfuscation, and a lust for power without regard for anyone else...Well, you are beyond rational logic and off into smearing and conspiracy land there, so that illustrates you are also more interested in blind loyalty than truth and the common good.&quot;

Wow, you conservatives sure hate that we&#039;ve all learned to play your game back at you, eh?  Guess your lies, rumors, and BS is not working so well this time around!  :)  It makes me so very, very happy to know that the jig is up on the GOP!  The statements above are what you guys have been pulling on the rest of us for far too long.  The common good was NOT invading Iraq.  The common good was NOT subverting Americans civil rights.  The common good is Obama.  The truth shall set you free!  It did me about 24 years ago.  Thank goodness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Iâ€™ll go back and forth with you all day on this and point out your double standard and blind loyalty to a party and people that have shown nothing but corruption, obfuscation, and a lust for power without regard for anyone else&#8230;Well, you are beyond rational logic and off into smearing and conspiracy land there, so that illustrates you are also more interested in blind loyalty than truth and the common good.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, you conservatives sure hate that we&#8217;ve all learned to play your game back at you, eh?  Guess your lies, rumors, and BS is not working so well this time around!  <img src='http://pundit.blogpeoria.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   It makes me so very, very happy to know that the jig is up on the GOP!  The statements above are what you guys have been pulling on the rest of us for far too long.  The common good was NOT invading Iraq.  The common good was NOT subverting Americans civil rights.  The common good is Obama.  The truth shall set you free!  It did me about 24 years ago.  Thank goodness.</p>
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		<title>By: postsimian</title>
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		<dc:creator>postsimian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TaxMeMore -- wow, way to jump off the deep end.  What version of reality are you tuned into?  Man, I&#039;ve got to FIND that station.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TaxMeMore &#8212; wow, way to jump off the deep end.  What version of reality are you tuned into?  Man, I&#8217;ve got to FIND that station.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 20:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I got off the Kool Aid when I was 22.  My eyes are wide open!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I got off the Kool Aid when I was 22.  My eyes are wide open!</p>
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		<title>By: TaxMeMore</title>
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		<dc:creator>TaxMeMore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linda, I&#039;m not pro-McCain. I&#039;m anti-liars, thugs, corruption, theft, rights abusers, war starters, blind partisan sycophants, and people that do more harm to America than good. Just like Barack Obama has done in Illinois, more harm than good.

And you don&#039;t know your Alaskan politics if you were unaware that Sarah Palin whistleblew on her GOP State Chair BEFORE she ran for Lt. Gov and Gov. Not after.

Ok I&#039;ll match your bridge to nowhere and raise you state and federal grant money to the Muntu Dance Theater in Chicago sponsored by Barack Obama and Emil Jones Jr. WHILE Michelle Obama was a sitting board members and while the Muntu Dance Theater was paying over $50,000 to a federal lobbyist (you know the ones Obama supposedly hates unless they benefit his wife) in order to secure those grants.

I&#039;ll go back and forth with you all day on this and point out your double standard and blind loyalty to a party and people that have shown nothing but corruption, obfuscation, and a lust for power without regard for anyone else. 

And you really believe the Governor of a state can get away with faking a pregnancy and covering up for her daughter that you think actually is the mother? Well, you are beyond rational logic and off into smearing and conspiracy land there, so that illustrates you are also more interested in blind loyalty than truth and the common good. Please keep supporting Obama so more people will see exactly what he inspires from people. 

Its clear Obama inspires hate against those that disagree and Obama inspires his supporters to smear 16 year old girls and could care less about ruining a young girl&#039;s life if it is in their political interests. That is just plain horrible but indicative of what we can expect with an Obama Presidency. If people don&#039;t agree and drink the kool aid, make stuff up to smear them with without regard for anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linda, I&#8217;m not pro-McCain. I&#8217;m anti-liars, thugs, corruption, theft, rights abusers, war starters, blind partisan sycophants, and people that do more harm to America than good. Just like Barack Obama has done in Illinois, more harm than good.</p>
<p>And you don&#8217;t know your Alaskan politics if you were unaware that Sarah Palin whistleblew on her GOP State Chair BEFORE she ran for Lt. Gov and Gov. Not after.</p>
<p>Ok I&#8217;ll match your bridge to nowhere and raise you state and federal grant money to the Muntu Dance Theater in Chicago sponsored by Barack Obama and Emil Jones Jr. WHILE Michelle Obama was a sitting board members and while the Muntu Dance Theater was paying over $50,000 to a federal lobbyist (you know the ones Obama supposedly hates unless they benefit his wife) in order to secure those grants.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go back and forth with you all day on this and point out your double standard and blind loyalty to a party and people that have shown nothing but corruption, obfuscation, and a lust for power without regard for anyone else. </p>
<p>And you really believe the Governor of a state can get away with faking a pregnancy and covering up for her daughter that you think actually is the mother? Well, you are beyond rational logic and off into smearing and conspiracy land there, so that illustrates you are also more interested in blind loyalty than truth and the common good. Please keep supporting Obama so more people will see exactly what he inspires from people. </p>
<p>Its clear Obama inspires hate against those that disagree and Obama inspires his supporters to smear 16 year old girls and could care less about ruining a young girl&#8217;s life if it is in their political interests. That is just plain horrible but indicative of what we can expect with an Obama Presidency. If people don&#8217;t agree and drink the kool aid, make stuff up to smear them with without regard for anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: TaxMeMore</title>
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		<dc:creator>TaxMeMore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>postsimian, I&#039;m not a Republican, and yes it is refreshing to see a Republican that has actually done something about corruption in her own political party and her own state, unlike Barack &quot;look the other way&quot; Obama (D-Emil Jones Jr. and Emil Jones III back pocket).

Aww, how cute, yet another Illinois Democrat willing to sell out the people of her/his state and her/his country to corrupt politicians while exhibiting a double standards so they can be on the &quot;winning&quot; side and get what they are entitled to.

&quot;If you donâ€™t have the skills to capture your partyâ€™s primary and then win the general election, how can you hope to guide your agenda through Congress?&quot;

Um, how many Presidential primaries did Biden lose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>postsimian, I&#8217;m not a Republican, and yes it is refreshing to see a Republican that has actually done something about corruption in her own political party and her own state, unlike Barack &#8220;look the other way&#8221; Obama (D-Emil Jones Jr. and Emil Jones III back pocket).</p>
<p>Aww, how cute, yet another Illinois Democrat willing to sell out the people of her/his state and her/his country to corrupt politicians while exhibiting a double standards so they can be on the &#8220;winning&#8221; side and get what they are entitled to.</p>
<p>&#8220;If you donâ€™t have the skills to capture your partyâ€™s primary and then win the general election, how can you hope to guide your agenda through Congress?&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, how many Presidential primaries did Biden lose?</p>
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