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		<title>By: Obama's Foreign Policy Stance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama's Foreign Policy Stance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]Thus, the main thrust of the Democratic tradition is deeply steeped in fighting wars, but approaches this task with four things in mind: Wars should not begin until the last possible moment and ideally should be initiated by the enemy.Wars must be fought in a coalition with much of the burden borne by partners.The outcome of wars should be an institutional legal framework to manage the peace, with the United States being the most influential force within this multilateral framework.Any such framework must be built on a trans-Atlantic relationship.Democratic Party Fractures[...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]Thus, the main thrust of the Democratic tradition is deeply steeped in fighting wars, but approaches this task with four things in mind: Wars should not begin until the last possible moment and ideally should be initiated by the enemy.Wars must be fought in a coalition with much of the burden borne by partners.The outcome of wars should be an institutional legal framework to manage the peace, with the United States being the most influential force within this multilateral framework.Any such framework must be built on a trans-Atlantic relationship.Democratic Party Fractures[...]</p>
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		<title>By: postsimian</title>
		<link>http://pundit.blogpeoria.com/2008/09/04/politics-palins-speech-is-online/comment-page-1/#comment-4883</link>
		<dc:creator>postsimian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are you talking about?  Capitalism wasn&#039;t the main driving force, it was taxation and the ideological case for self-rule.  Actually, capitalism was one of the driving forces behind corrupt bankers taking control of our currency nearly a century ago.  Thanks for the national debt, capitalists.

I&#039;m by no means anti-capitalist, but I&#039;m confident business can be reigned in to prevent it from shipping jobs overseas (thanks to Republican policies), or from gouging the public, or from screwing employees, fraud, unethical policies, discrimination, etc.... but still entitling them to their profits.  It can be both ways, but one side is resistant to playing by the rules and is instead focused on their bottom line.  Frankly, when 1% of the world&#039;s population controls approximately 50% of its wealth, I don&#039;t see my views as being all that unreasonable.

Anyway, I&#039;m not referring to specific policies, I&#039;m referring to their policies in general on an ideological scale.  To understand just where they stand in comparison to actual radical leftism, you must understand varying political philosophies (Right now Republicans seem to be operating under Hobbes&#039; proposal of going along to get along).  Compare the positions of the two major parties to that of other democracies in the world, and you&#039;re bound to notice a few things.

By and far, the Democratic Party is squarely right-wing centrist in nature.  They&#039;re pro-business and have a significantly more tolerant social agenda than the Republicans do, but still at times try to exercise a type of moral authority (think certain ZT policies).  On most issues, Dems and Reps are separated on details, but rarely on the main ideas.  

Of course, the only thing we hear about is hot-button issues.  The right wing, however, has moved significantly further to the right over the past thirty years, and the Democratic party has followed right behind it.  What they did was change the dialogue to make the mainstream seem fringe, but not distance themselves from the fringe side of their policies, thus making them mainstream.  Clever of them, wouldn&#039;t you say?

Do some research on it and you&#039;ll see for yourself that trying to make the case that the so-called left is on the fringe is not only ignorant, but begs for a pot-and-kettle response.  Do keep in mind that calling something, such as universal health care, &quot;radical,&quot; does not make it so.  Compared to other modern democracies, we&#039;ve some catching up to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you talking about?  Capitalism wasn&#8217;t the main driving force, it was taxation and the ideological case for self-rule.  Actually, capitalism was one of the driving forces behind corrupt bankers taking control of our currency nearly a century ago.  Thanks for the national debt, capitalists.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m by no means anti-capitalist, but I&#8217;m confident business can be reigned in to prevent it from shipping jobs overseas (thanks to Republican policies), or from gouging the public, or from screwing employees, fraud, unethical policies, discrimination, etc&#8230;. but still entitling them to their profits.  It can be both ways, but one side is resistant to playing by the rules and is instead focused on their bottom line.  Frankly, when 1% of the world&#8217;s population controls approximately 50% of its wealth, I don&#8217;t see my views as being all that unreasonable.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m not referring to specific policies, I&#8217;m referring to their policies in general on an ideological scale.  To understand just where they stand in comparison to actual radical leftism, you must understand varying political philosophies (Right now Republicans seem to be operating under Hobbes&#8217; proposal of going along to get along).  Compare the positions of the two major parties to that of other democracies in the world, and you&#8217;re bound to notice a few things.</p>
<p>By and far, the Democratic Party is squarely right-wing centrist in nature.  They&#8217;re pro-business and have a significantly more tolerant social agenda than the Republicans do, but still at times try to exercise a type of moral authority (think certain ZT policies).  On most issues, Dems and Reps are separated on details, but rarely on the main ideas.  </p>
<p>Of course, the only thing we hear about is hot-button issues.  The right wing, however, has moved significantly further to the right over the past thirty years, and the Democratic party has followed right behind it.  What they did was change the dialogue to make the mainstream seem fringe, but not distance themselves from the fringe side of their policies, thus making them mainstream.  Clever of them, wouldn&#8217;t you say?</p>
<p>Do some research on it and you&#8217;ll see for yourself that trying to make the case that the so-called left is on the fringe is not only ignorant, but begs for a pot-and-kettle response.  Do keep in mind that calling something, such as universal health care, &#8220;radical,&#8221; does not make it so.  Compared to other modern democracies, we&#8217;ve some catching up to do.</p>
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		<title>By: 11Bravo</title>
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		<dc:creator>11Bravo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a step back there Billy, I said liberals, not Democrats. The story of JFK is what got me interested in politics initially in 3rd grade. It wasn&#039;t until 6th grade when I realized that the modern Democrat Party had left JFK long ago, been a Republican ever since.

postsimian, what Democrat policies are you referring to? And no country has a free market, we just have significantly less government control than most other countries. And capitalism was one of the driving forces behind the revolutionary movement. I&#039;d be interested on how one would propose we could separate the &quot;free&quot; market from the individuality of the typical American, or the &quot;American Dream&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a step back there Billy, I said liberals, not Democrats. The story of JFK is what got me interested in politics initially in 3rd grade. It wasn&#8217;t until 6th grade when I realized that the modern Democrat Party had left JFK long ago, been a Republican ever since.</p>
<p>postsimian, what Democrat policies are you referring to? And no country has a free market, we just have significantly less government control than most other countries. And capitalism was one of the driving forces behind the revolutionary movement. I&#8217;d be interested on how one would propose we could separate the &#8220;free&#8221; market from the individuality of the typical American, or the &#8220;American Dream&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: postsimian</title>
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		<dc:creator>postsimian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, according to their overall policies, most Democrats appear to be centrist conservatives.  I guess that &lt;i&gt;would&lt;/i&gt; be extreme to the authoritarian free market fringe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, according to their overall policies, most Democrats appear to be centrist conservatives.  I guess that <i>would</i> be extreme to the authoritarian free market fringe.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy Dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Billy Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11Bravo: Not always. Remember what Reagan used to say, that he never left the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left him? I think it happened after the JFK administration. For all the hero-worship the Dem do with him, the fact is that JFK would be drummed out of the modern Democratic Party much in the same way they did to Joe Lieberman. But then, the GOP would do the same thing with Lincoln.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11Bravo: Not always. Remember what Reagan used to say, that he never left the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left him? I think it happened after the JFK administration. For all the hero-worship the Dem do with him, the fact is that JFK would be drummed out of the modern Democratic Party much in the same way they did to Joe Lieberman. But then, the GOP would do the same thing with Lincoln.</p>
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		<title>By: 11Bravo</title>
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		<dc:creator>11Bravo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s right, they were always way out there. :) &quot;Radical liberal&quot; is kind of redundant Merle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s right, they were always way out there. <img src='http://pundit.blogpeoria.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8220;Radical liberal&#8221; is kind of redundant Merle.</p>
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		<title>By: postsimian</title>
		<link>http://pundit.blogpeoria.com/2008/09/04/politics-palins-speech-is-online/comment-page-1/#comment-4870</link>
		<dc:creator>postsimian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merle, it&#039;s not my side that moved the extreme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merle, it&#8217;s not my side that moved the extreme.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon E. Mouse</title>
		<link>http://pundit.blogpeoria.com/2008/09/04/politics-palins-speech-is-online/comment-page-1/#comment-4863</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon E. Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Physical demands rating and qualifications for initial award of MOS. The infantry senior sergeant must possess the following qualifications:

(1) Physical Demands Rating: N/A

(2) Physical Profile: 222221

(3) Color discrimination of red/green*

(4) Minimum score in aptitude area: N/A

CLOSED TO WOMEN

The major duties, physical demands, physical profile, and skill levels were obtained from Army Pamphlet 611-21.
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Well, we know you can tell the difference between red and blue. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Physical demands rating and qualifications for initial award of MOS. The infantry senior sergeant must possess the following qualifications:</p>
<p>(1) Physical Demands Rating: N/A</p>
<p>(2) Physical Profile: 222221</p>
<p>(3) Color discrimination of red/green*</p>
<p>(4) Minimum score in aptitude area: N/A</p>
<p>CLOSED TO WOMEN</p>
<p>The major duties, physical demands, physical profile, and skill levels were obtained from Army Pamphlet 611-21.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Well, we know you can tell the difference between red and blue. <img src='http://pundit.blogpeoria.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: 11Bravo</title>
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		<dc:creator>11Bravo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks anon, but I&#039;m actually going the route of an 11Alpha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks anon, but I&#8217;m actually going the route of an 11Alpha.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we should make 11Bravo an 11Zulu. He&#039;s top dog around here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should make 11Bravo an 11Zulu. He&#8217;s top dog around here.</p>
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