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State: Concealed carry coming to Illinois?

Well, at least someone is making an attempt to recognize that the 2nd Amendment applies to Illinois:

The legislators say the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling last summer overturning a handgun ban in Washington D.C. and an endorsement of concealed carry by the Illinois Sheriffs’ Association gives a boost to their efforts.

Republican state Rep. Bill Mitchell says he wants concealed weapons legislation to finally get a hearing in the House.

Supporters of such legislation say the bill would allow citizens to get permits to carry concealed firearms, but only after gun owners complete an extensive application process, including training courses in handgun use, safety and marksmanship.

My two cents: We have members of No Love walking around armed because they have no intention of obeying the law. It’s time otherwise law-abiding citizens are allowed to do the same.

But I wouldn’t count on it. There’s a lot to like about Governor Quinn, but I don’t see him OR the current legislature approving this. Better to take it to court before President Obama can appoint anti-gun judges.

That court decision is discussed here.

2 Responses to “State: Concealed carry coming to Illinois?”

  1.   TaxMeMore Says:

    In case your readers haven’t heard, John Cullerton is the new Chicago Senate President. Cullerton, as his voting and public records show, is about the most rabidly anti-2nd amendment person in the state of Illinois. Michael Madigan may be worse than Cullerton but we really can’t tell because in his 38 year political history (24 years as Illinois Speaker) Michael Madigan hasn’t talked about gun control much and has somehow gotten away with it in the Illinois media. Couple that with the obscenely anti-democratic Chicago Democrat Senate rules concerning which bills even can be allowed to go for a vote in a committee, and there is no way in heck concealed carry will ever pass in Illinois under this continuing Democrat dynasty.

    What, you think Rod Blagojevich is gone and suddenly the Democrats of Illinois aren’t power hungry, corrupt, and back to their same old poverty creating self-interests?

    Keep up the good posts with your freedom leaning eyes, Billy. Good work.

    Truth and Freedom! Thats all the change we really need.

  2.   Kevin K Says:

    Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and
    force. If you want me to do something, you have the choice of either
    convincing me via discussion or argument, or to try to force me to do
    your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into
    one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that’s
    it.

    In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact with
    one another through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of
    social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu
    is the possession of personal arms, as paradoxical as that may sound to
    some.

    When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use
    reason to try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat
    or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a
    100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old
    retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang-banger, and single gay
    guy on equal footing with a carload of drunken homophobes with baseball
    bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, and/or
    numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.

    There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad
    force equations. These are the people who think that we’d all be more
    civilized if every gun was removed from society, because firearms make
    it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only
    true if the mugger’s potential victims are disarmed, either by choice or
    by legislative fiat. It has no validity when most of mugger’s potential
    marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for the
    automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that’s exactly
    the opposite of a civilized society.

    A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society
    where the state has granted him a force monopoly. Then there’s the argument
    that guns make confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result only
    in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns, the
    confrontation is won by a physically superior party inflicting overwhelming
    injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones
    don’t constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings
    and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes
    lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the
    stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is leveled. The gun is the
    only weapon that’s as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as in the hands
    of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn’t work as well as a force equalizer if
    it wasn’t both lethal and easily employable.

    When I carry a gun, I don’t do so because I am out looking for a fight, but
    because I’m looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot
    be forced; only persuaded. I don’t carry it because I’m afraid, but because
    it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn’t limit the actions of those who
    would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would
    do so by force. It removes force from the equation…and that’s why my
    carrying a gun is a civilized act.